Doodle Devil

Any possibility of a Flash port? I'm poor and don't have a phone that can play this.

I was hoping to see a Flash port of this one, too, and I've been on the lookout for it. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be one even in the works.

My guess is they created the Flash version of Doodle God to help get word out about it before they had any idea how successful and popular it would become.

I saw the title and thought, "It can't be a Doodle God sequel, there's just no...". But, then I saw "Doodle God" and "sequel" and thought, "IT IS A DOODLE GOD SEQUEL!"
Imagine my horror when I saw "Platform: Mobile (iOS)".
No! Curse you, Jobs!

In all seriousness, I am upset that the sequel to that surprisingly fun element-mixing game is not available for me, someone with no smart phone of any kind, to play (though the squiggle-face rating does have me nervous).
So if you could, first tell us of any plans for a future flash release of this or any other game. Second, tell me what warrants the squiggle-face rating.
In short, I have no iPhone, iPod Touch, or Droid phone. I wanted to play. Why the squggle-face?

No plans for a flash release, as far as I know. But don't count it out! As for the squiggle rating, some of the icons have partial cartoon nudity in them. It's barely noticeable, but I rated it higher just in case.

If I recall correctly, the original had a squiggle-rating too, because of:

Now aren't you glad you asked?

[Your comment does not accurately reflect the policies of JIG. Our game ratings page clearly contradicts that. We are conservative with ratings for any content that may be viewed as objectionable. We aren't here to censor, just to inform. -Jay]

I'm sure you can think of some of the more obvious. The Doodle God game did have a 'sex' element.

Makers of this game: Note the number of comments demanding a Flash version! Not everybody has an iPhone! Heed our call!

I saw "Doodle Devil" My heart leaped. I envisioned a Doodle God with a amazing dark humor twist. I clicked the link instantly...

Then I raged. Effing smart phones. I'd settle for a flash version with less function.

Doodle Devil Walkthrough

How to get all 107 Elements

Jay -

My apologies. I'd clearly misremembered the ratings system.

You apply it consistently and fairy, but I do see a higher tolerance here and in the culture of gaming as a whole for explicit violence as opposed to sex. That's more of a cultural issue than a JiG-specific one.

As I said, a topic for another conversation.

[Correct, you'll get no argument from me there. But the internet already has porn sites, and we don't want to be associated with those. ;) Cheers. -Jay]

FLASH version Pleaze!!

Flash. Give us Flash.

Mobile Mondays really tick me off. They're generally free, but you HAVE TO HAVE A SMART PHONE.

Dear Doodle Devil Creator,

I have an android phone and the substitutes for doodle god/devil aren't cutting it. I highly suggest you make a flash port with commercials/ads so you can benefit financially. By being iphone specific you are unable to reach a tremendously larger audience! If you can find a way to have a flash port and make money too then please do so!

JohnB: I'm not the only one.

As for Mobile Mondays, some of the games look really neat, but as I said...need a smartphone (Iphone).

Does anyone know how to contact the maker(s) (I don't know how many people made this) of Doodle Devil? Because I'd like for them to hear that so many people objected to releasing this only on smartphone

[I've contacted the developer and just learned that a Flash version is indeed on the way. Follow us here at JIG because we'll be among the first to report it when it's available. :) -Jay]

Tiny bits of nudity? Whew! Okay.
Really my only fear about squiggle rating is that there might be jump scares. But, if it's just non-scary nudity, that's fine. I'll just go right on over and play... oh, right. No iOS device...

Flash version!! Awesome.

In case people didn't know, Doodle God's mobile version had more features than the flash version (justifying the .99 cent price tag), and Doodle Devil will most likely do the same. So if you want the full full version of the game, you will still have to buy the mobile version.

Honestly though, it's not that much of a difference. The mobile version had a dual hint system and maybe 20 more elements. Then again, if you have a smart phone, it is only .99 cents.

Bought it, played it. Meh. Is there a reason

Also, most of the combinations "X + human" also work as "X + man", but for some reason not as "X + woman". Not sure if the others weren't coded out of laziness or sexism.

any news of an Andriod version?

I dont get it what so great about a game that maximizes what bad classical adventure designs had let you to: try everything with everything. So aside for all the bells and whistles and granted great game name referring to "The man who stare at goats". The answer is to all is not 42, but n factorial!

To be a positive critic than just a grunt, "the hint lights" are definitive an improvement, but still the game might have a good idea inside, it just doesnt make enough of it. It could e.g. give you puzzle hints right within the game, like what would have to be created - and you have to guess the elements. That way, there is more to it, than an everything with everything clickfest. Or a finger fest on the touchable :-)

@fuzzyface You mean (n+1)-choose-2, not n!. Just saying.

You really should consider putting a big label similar to the Mobile Monday label on any mobile articles; the large amount of content on JIG and my extensive time here has made me acquire a certain amount of skill for filtering what I'd be interested in playing and what I wouldn't be, or wouldn't be able to play. Mobile Monday is one of the things I automatically glaze over, not owning a smart phone, but when there isn't a clear label [other than the tags] at the top of the article, I'll often read about it, get excited, and then be ultimately disappointed. It would be a great help if you could put a banner-type label on any mobile articles as well as the regular Mobile Monday feature, as they are in an entirely different classification from your regular content and, as far as I have seen, often throw people off and leave them disappointed.

Thank you,

-Languidiir

[Thank you for the feedback. We are working on a mobile site that should solve this issue. Please be patient while we're in a transitioning state. Thank you for your visits. :) -Jay]

Buttons, ah yes, I always mix that up out of some reason. Its n*(n-1)/2.

@Kenshiro: Its probably the same Da Vinici's man for the human category and the 'sex' element. Neither of which are explicit.

@Buttons re your comment about X + man = X + human but not X + woman: Thank you for making that point, because that's something that bothered me rather and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed it.

I'm not complaining about the cost, because it's dead cheap. But because of the impression I'm left with, of carelessness from the game's creators, Doodle Devil is not a game I think I'll keep playing - unlike Doodle God.

Cool, a flash version for this game! Will there be a flash version for the latest Doodle God update? (You know, it has nearly 200 elements now.)

Flash! Yay!!!!

Excuse me, but there seems to be something missing from the walkthrough. It clearly lists "weapon" as an element in at least 1 combination, but nowhere does it say how to create the weapon element & it's not among the given elements.

Also, some of the combinations listed don't give any reaction, but that's probably because I'm playing the flash version. I'm sure the mobile version has more elements.

@Rygar: I'm looking into that right now.

Also, if anyone wants to take our walkthrough and use it to build one specifically for the Flash version (which isn't likely to change), I'll offer up a bounty of a couple free games of your choice. It must be well-formatted and easy to read like ours, and accurate to qualify.

Problem with the walkthrough (at least for flash version)

Flash version comments... NOW.

The walkthrough doesn't say how to get

. How do I get it?

Also, to make

Can someone make a Walkthrough for the flash version please?

The walk-through for the iPhone version does not seem to work with flash (unless the flash has some updates still in progress?)

i'm assuming they've changed some stuff for the flash game because some of the combinations in your walkthrough just don't work.

also, the one where you list in order you found, you're using elements you don't 'find' til right down the bottom of the list, so the order might need revising

The walkthrough above doesn't seem to work in the flash version. It says there is 107 elements but in the flash version there is only 100 elements. Can anybody post a walkthrough for the flash version?

This is uncomfortably Christian. Someone didn't get the memo that there are many other religions, many spiritual paths. I for one do not believe Gandhi and Buddha are in hell for not following Jesus.

And of course, science tells us not to make assumptions about the world, not to take things on faith. At least, not about the physical world, the only one science knows.

Sorry. But I just thought, this game may offend people who do not follow the Abrahamic faiths.

I can do a walkthrough.

Elements by category because the total listing for the download version is out of order.

Reece...

Doodle Devil Walkthrough (Flash version)

By Category:

Alphabetized:

To get War in the Flash version I got:

I tested every combination in my walkthrough.
The categories are in order from top to bottom left to right as they appear at the end. Each element is then arranged in order. I also provided alternate combinations for some (I know I didn't get them all).

Thanks, SkylerF!

Send an email to our contact address and we'll discuss your prize. :)

What's Food = ?

Somehow I skipped "Food" in the walkthrough.

How to get war?

I'm a little bothered by the sexism and heteronormativity (unintended or otherwise) in this game as well. To add to what was already mentioned in above comments:

I'm not bothered enough to stop playing, but it would be nice if future updates took care of some of the (hopefully) unintended messages the game is sending.

There's so much to be offended by if someone wants to be offended... I think it's okay for a game's developer to have a different perspective than me, though. It's just a game, after all.

Besides, it sounds like there will be more combinations coming out in the updates.

Thank you for the walkthrough SkylerF!!!

And since this is a creation game, and in many cases a commentary on society, I think it is particularly appropriate to comment on the direct and indirect messages it is sending.

Additionally, the whole premise of the game being taking small elements and turning them into larger things also sets the stage well for this sort of discussion. Sure it's just a game, but if you combine the various messages within it, you get a larger view of things. We grow as individuals and as a society by exchanging different views and experiences, not by sitting by ourselves and not interacting.

But if you want to talk strictly gameplay, I can do that too. As I believe was already mentioned above, what is really gained by having three separate tiles for "human," "man," and "woman?" It just slows the game down with repeating combinations. And on another note, as for the "chaos" tile:

Just to add my 2 cents to the mix here.

I believe it's fine that some games force us to look at things from a different perspective, even if that perspective is a flawed one. There's nothing that forces us to accept that perspective as the norm, but we are free to choose (Woohoo! Freedom) and publicly take a stand by expressing our disagreement or approval in the form of sensible, compassionate discussion (whoohoo! First Amendment). After all, what is art if not to force us to look at things from different perspectives and comment on them.

And I believe this is especially true for the many varied forms of entertainment we enjoy, not the least of which is games.

What I meant is that the game is completely based on Christianity, it seems an intentional Christian game. Not only is that potentially offensive to people of other faiths (what with the Christian tendency to try to convert you),
it is unscientific in the extreme. Our understanding of the universe has moved on a lot, and not all the element interactions are even logical.

Strangely, this wasn't such a problem in the first game. That was more lighthearted, less judgmental, and less based on one single religion.

Well, see that's another freedom we enjoy here in the US, Freedom of Religion, which means we are free to practice religion of our own choosing.

So, what if someone wants to convert others? We are still free to choose (there we go again) whether to allow ourselves to be changed. Personally, I don't wish to have others try to convert me, and I'll make that known before the discussion goes very far. That is my right as long as I act responsibly and compassionately.

I don't know about you, but I would rather someone try to convert me than to have someone wish me dead for not believing in what they believe is true, which can and does happen in religious extremism. So, I believe we all need to be very mindful and compassionate towards others, especially when their beliefs differ with ours.

And if a particular entertainment piece contradicts our own beliefs and values, we are again free to choose not to play.

Please note that we rated this game orange due to the level of potentially objectionable content it contains.

An error I noticed in the Flash Walkthrough:

I don't know if anyone else pointed it out, but I just thought it might help.

[Oops, thanks. Fixed. :) -Jay]

Is it like that in the iPhone version, and is just a joke...or actual censorship? 0.o

People, it's called comedy. I really don't see the reason to get so upset over a game that's clearly not taking itself seriously.

The Christian references didn't really bother me (and I'm not Christian) - I thought it was kind of fun delving into a theology's ideas like that, e.g. human + apple = sin is just clever. :)

Like a few other people have said, I also found having "human," "man," AND "woman" unnecessary, especially seeing as often only one would work in a combination.

Overall I found that the connections were not as intuitive as in the original Doodle God - I found myself resorting to trial-and-error clicking much more quickly, as opposed to being able to guess at potential new elements.

Regardless, it still looks great and was a fun way to kill 10 (or 20 or 30 :P) minutes.

The combination for Styx and Cerberus won't work for me. Is it because I'm playing the flash game? It says I have 99 and I've gone through the walkthrough lists and those are the only two I can see that I've missed. I'm frustrated because I'm one short!

Why on Earth does

and

hmmm was really looking forward to a great sequel to doodle god, but this wasn't it. In fact it wasn't even much of a sequel, more of a 'tweak', they just added a few extra tiles and a new group. I guess I can't really complain too much as it's free and I still kind of enjoyed playing it, but I'd be pretty annoyed if I had paid for the iphone version. Really hope that they make the sequel that the original deserves!

For example I'd like to see a version where you start as some kind of primordial soup and your goal is space travel. You'd have to work you way up through life to homo sapiens, and then up through all the technologys. There could be multiple paths and you could get a score on the lowest number of combinations it takes you.

My opinion:

It is not necessarily "Christian" all the way through.

Many different religions believe in a reward/punishment afterlife. "Angel" and "Demon" could be interpreted as "spirits." The concept of a soul is not unique to Christianity. Just look at Hinduism.

Television. There is no doubt that what is on TV now often has questionable (and sometimes immoral) content. Thus, it is an "evil" "mechanism."
And arrogant (or prideful) politicians is a common stereotype. Whether it is true or not is debatable.

But I don't get the

I highly doubt the developers meant it to be so controversial. I took the game as a fun diversion that could possibly contain food for thought.

Certainly some... poorer choices made here.

I agree with my fellow internet zombies. While there were some combinations that made me laugh, a lot of them were simply "WTF?" moments for me, not making sense even after I read the walkthrough. And seriously, is it that difficult to make women react to the same combinations as men??! Lazy coders! Shame on you! And should I even bring up the fact that you can make witches, but not wizards or warlocks? I'm insulted.

hehehehehehehe

Another weird combo:

But it doesn't work with a (hu)man. I don't get it.

BEAST + FRIENDSHIP SHOULD EQUAL DOG!!!!!!!

Sin + Food = Gluttony

Human + Stone = House

I think flash version took out some monsters.

Someone's going to have to explain to me how

This logic in this game just gets worse and worse

The unlogic and what I'll generously assume to be inadvertent sexism bothered me to the point that I gave up before finishing it. There are also some things which are not illogical, but wrong.

Two from before I quit:

The fruit of the tree of knowledge was not an apple.

Frankenstein was a man who created a monster; not the monster.

The most interesting part was the idea of building the seven deadly sins because it's one of the only parts of either game where you can guess at the goal, but even here inconsistent logic derails the game; sin+food and sin+sex make certain sense, because it's a sinful approach to either that create gluttony and lust, respectively; by that logic sloth should be sin+leisure, not sin+work.

Someone commented about the first one of these that it's a game you feel compelled to keep playing, but feel bad about yourself afterwards. I see that here too; there's too little logic to puzzle things out without the in-game hint system or a walkthrough, in which case you're just tossing stuff together from a recipe book. Not worth the effort or the attention it's getting, in my opinion.

I agree that the developers could have been less lazy or

with the coding for

I thought

was kinda funny.
I stopped playing rather quickly, also because this one isn't as intuïtive as Doodle God.

weird combo:

i don't get that one.

how many of us flash gamers are unnerved at the recent lack of good online games its almost like the devolopers want more money, we already have to play the games in a frame of advertisements and i thing i phones a a FAD

beast plus friendship should equal cat!

As a female Pagan who is married to a male Witch, I found the

combo a little insulting. I assume it was unintentional on the part of the developer, but it was still an eyebrow-raiser. Putting

category was similarly irksome, and didn't seem to jive with the flavor text.

Alright, a large problem I see with the mobile walkthrough...

Well, it says "these are the order in which we found these elements", but, problem is, some of the elements they use - a lot of them, actually - are not actually created until further down in the list.

For example, grass+fire=tobacco. Grass isn't created until around 15 elements later, so how could you possibly combine it with anything?

A little reorganization is needed, really.

Also, I'm not entirely sure why this is rated Orange. There's pixellated nudity, I suppose, but that comes under Yellow... I honestly cannot see one thing in this game that warrants an Orange rating. Unless you count tobacco as a drug reference.

Found a reaction that the guide missed.
Dragon+Hydra=Sex

thanks i finished i thought it was unfare how woman was barely used and they only got used for some and the lust pic was a naked woman lust is sex+sin btw i prefered doodle god aswell but ah well

Psychology and atheism are a result of heresy and man? What a silly game.
Also, I tried the Death and Water combo and it didn't seem to work. I noticed something similar in Doodle God. Maybe I am imagining things, but maybe it's not letting you pick certain combinations until later in the game?

I'm using your walkthrough and a lot of them aren't working.

Ahh, controversy, where would we be without it? I immediatly noticed the problem with the combinations utilising "Man" but not "Woman". I think the developers did this, because

and

I got pigeon, not dove for

There is a working flash version of both doodle god and doodle devil right here on JIG.

https://jayisgames.com/games/doodle-devil/

https://jayisgames.com/games/doodle-god/

This walkthrough needs updating. The version I have on my iPhone has 157 elements, not 107.

I also had some issues with the X + Woman combos, being a woman myself, but not enough to deter me very much. As an optimist, I assume laziness rather than sexism.

And the

combo just made me laugh.

It's a free (and rather simplistic) game, guys. Getting upset about the controversial elements is akin to crying over spilled milk.

In the iPhone/Pod vesion there is a small difference. Chaos is a given element in one of the versions of the mobile game but in the other you habe to do it yourself ...

I jumped into Doodle Devil immediately after being charmed from start to finish by Doodle God. The effect was kind of like eating a delicious apple, reaching for another one, and finding a worm in it.

I was squicked out right off the bat by the heteronormativity, especially since it could so easily been averted.

. But, nope, evidently there's no such thing as gay and women obviously don't make friends ever.

I know it's just a casual alchemy game, and they probably weren't thinking in that much depth, but frankly the fact that they didn't think about it in that much depth is kind of offensive in itself. Y'know, considering this is a game about thinking about combinations in depth. I tried to just ignore my squicky feeling and keep playing, but it pretty much soured me on the whole experience and I stopped not long after, with no particular intention of going back.

They don't have to cater to me, but me and my non-heterosexuality feel marginalized enough in the real world - I don't need that in my games, too.

It's a pity, because I really enjoyed Doodle God and I liked the idea of Doodle Devil. But I'm not going to buy it. I might not even buy Doodle God, but we'll see if that's just the bitterness talking.

When will a walkthrough for the iPod/iPhone update come out. I am going to make an account later so expect more comments from me ;)

Lol woman+magic=witch
'I'm not a witch; I'm your wife!' love the princess bride. this game just got even more epic!!
xx

I have just set up this account I commented earlier about the doodle devil iOS update and here is what I have found so far

also chaos is no longer a given element you get it by

p.s I couldn't find cellphone in the walktrough so here it is

Yay I have completed the update I would give a walkthrough but I forgot to write it down I'll restart and give a walktrough when I'm done

I just love thhat one too, but I still think that if the games says what the things you can do next it will not be sou trial and error...

Just like that:
Now you can do (with all the elements you have): life, soul, witch, mushroom, tree.

I think that way would be less massive, but is my opinion.

How about a trilogy called:
Doodle Greek God!
You'll be Zeus and you have to create the Elements and the Major Greek Gods will be groups.
Would they make it? I dunno

I want a Doodle Mythology

hey noone put how to put gluttony:

tree+human=food

food+sin=gluttony

and mutant doesn't work
and ressurection

;-)

I looked at the entire walkthrough, and I'm pretty sure that you guys skipped over how to make war.

Just wondering why the game says it has 16 categories and 157 elements...

Chelsea -
Why? I was told there was an update that added 50 new elements, therefore, 107 + 50 = 157.

Wow, I love ALL these games!

...but, my game says it has only 100 elements...

Mine is talking about 190 elements in 9 categories. By now, I found 172 of them... Some elements moved to new categories. The next goal should be "communism" or in german "Kommunismus". But I don't know how...

So, I went to the app store, downloaded it, and only then thought, "Wait, maybe it's only playable on an iPhone/iTouch..."

for murder

there is a flash version of this game online.

[Yes. And we have it here. Just click the big "Play Doodle Devil (Flash version)" button beneath the review above to play it. -Jay]