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Rob Allen's banner game

Have you been looking for a way to replay (or perhaps play for the first time) the banner game that Rob Allen created for us a couple years ago? When we updated the site layout moving to a larger, wider format, we temporarily lost the ability to swap stylesheets.

But now it's back! Just click the image above to switch the stylesheet over to the one that includes the banner game. Click it again to switch it back.

Play the Rob Allen Banner Game

Walkthrough Guide


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Hey, I beat it. Here is a clear and specific walkthrough.

Banner Game Walktrough:

Note: The letters are presented here in order for clarity. The letters cannot be lit in the exact order in which they appear in the words, but many of them can be lit in any order. Try to find as many as you can before resorting to this guide.

C:

Get the wand, and use it one your man while he's on the left side of the lake. He'll be flung into the lake and a mini-game will start. The man will follow your mouse pointer, and jump when you click. Grab all the letters and avoid the crab before the meter at the bottom runs out. Success will light up the C.

a:

Use the wand on the left lantern.

s:

Enter the Jaytrix (if you don't know what this is, see "Secrets") and some circles will show up. The circles represent a 3x3 section of a maze. The big circles are walls and the little circles are pathways. Click the little circles to move in the maze. When you find a star, make sure your screen is centered on it and click. You may or may not have to get the "a" in "Gameplay" first.

u:

After using the wand on both lanterns, a target will appear. Click it, then try to hit as many targets as possible. For the moving targets, I find that it's easiest to get them at the bottom of the screen. You need to hit at least 12 to win.

a:

Use the wand on the right lantern.

l:

Before getting the previous letter (refresh if you already did, you're progress is safe), move the man to the right side of the lake, near the fire. Click the fire to get a torch. Move the man to the left side of the lake and turn the right lantern on if it isn't already. When your torch burns out, the fireflies following you will move to the lantern. Press the button inside the l, then quickly turn of the lantern.

G:

Are you signed into JIG to leave a comment? You will need to be to get this letter. If you're already signed in, then you should already have this letter!

(Anonymous commenters may also get the "G". You'll have to leave a comment and click the box "Remember me" for it to work. Make sure you reload the page afterwards for the special "G" sauce.)

a:

In the Jaytrix, there is a switch on a tree. Flip it.

m:

Click on the hole in the tree on the very left side of the banner. Three red bugs will come out. When they are below the m, press the red button on said m.

e:

Turn the volume on for this. In the sky, there are 5 stars that are slightly bigger than the rest and light up when you rollover them. Click the stars to play notes from lowest to highest.

p:

At the top of the banner, there are some brown leaves. Click them. Go get a torch (move the guy to the fire and click the fire then come back) and click the pile of leaves below the p.

l:

After lighting the second letter a in "Gameplay," reload the banner (your progress is safe). There should be a rocket ship. Go get the frog but do NOT click on him. Zap him with the wand to turn him into a real boy. Click him now to make him go in the ship and start a mini-game. Avoid the alien eyeballs until you reach the end. A word of advice, when you come to the moving blue eyes, don't stay near the top or you'll get a nasty surprise.

a:

Get the frog and click on him to make him hop onto a lily pad. Now zap him with the wand to turn him into a human. Click the man to make him fish. If you look closely at the lake, you'll see a ripple come out of where the man is fishing, and another spot on the lake. Use your mouse to push the guy over to that spot and click him after the ripple.

y:

Get the frog (don't know how? See "Secrets") and click on him to make him go on a lilly pad. Push him over to the other side of the lake and click on him until he hops onto the "a". Now click the hole in the leftmost tree to make some bugs come out. when they reach the "e" in "gameplay," click the frog. Click him again after the green bug comes out to eat it (though it's worth watching what happens if you fail first).

Secrets

Wand:

After you light the "l" in "Casual," click your man to move him to the right side of the screen, then roll your mouse over both sets of reeds. A wizard will pop out from a tree. Click him while he's flying to get him to drop a magic wand.

The Jaytrix / do a jig / jay is MOST DEFINITELY games:

Assuming you're using an up-to-date browser and the latest copy of flash player, when you right click on the banner there should be an option called either: 1) "the jaytrix has you", 2) "do a jig", or 3) "jay is MOST DEFINITELY games". Click it and you'll be sucked into the Jaytrix.

The Frog:

Drag and drop the rocks to destroy them. Click the tree above where the rocks were to make new rocks. Eventually, a big rock will fall. Drag away this rock to find the frog.

[Orginially submitted by golden_cow2 August 8th 2007. ~Kero]

You must be signed into a valid casual gameplay account to complete the game now. You don't need to comment to finish. If the letter isn't showing up when you are signed in, try refreshing the page.

372 Comments

Wow, I remember this banner. It's so fun! Thanks for bringing it back!

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Roseate Spoonbill October 26, 2009 4:30 PM

Yay! I always liked the old format better! This makes me very happy!

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happyfaced October 26, 2009 4:46 PM

Awesome :D
'u' is super hard to get T_T

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Great idea Jay. This game was one of my first introductions to JIG as I remember. And what a great intro it was! I learned that JIG had a great community who would help me get to the end.

How do I reset the game, so I can replay it?

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THANK YOU!!!
Thank you SO much for bringing the banner game back! It's like nostalgia (spelling error=?)!

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By the way:
does anyone have a walkthrough? just in case. For anyone.

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george bailey October 26, 2009 5:38 PM

Rob Allen rules. Totally.

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Wow, this is awesome! I missed this theme for the site, and didn't like the new one as much. This brings to mind the question: could you recode all the old layouts so that we could pick one of several themes to see JiG in? I think it'd be a cool way to customize the site.

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Thanks Jay. You might as well post the walkthrough here too. Thirty minutes back into it and I'm stumped :-)

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It's weird which of these puzzles I remember and which ones I'm stumped at all over again. Thanks for bringing this back Jay!

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Cool. I do have one question though:

How do you get "G" with the new format?

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Anyone know what happened to Rob Allen's website? It's been gone for weeks now.

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george bailey October 26, 2009 5:53 PM

Does anyone have any suggestions for lighting up the "G"?
It's all I have left...

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This is pure awesome.

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And the G appears to be auto-lit.

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george bailey October 26, 2009 6:16 PM

Nope.
Played in Firefow before, and now I tried it in Safari as well.
Nothing.
Good luck to all others - still a great game!

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This is fantastic. So much puzzle from a single banner.

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Petalpink123 October 26, 2009 6:36 PM

I love this game but it is a bit difficult

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The banner game is fun, but I miss Tiny Game! I don't know why, but I love that little game. Any plan for its return?

[Edit: You can play the Tiny Game on the Tiny Game review page: https://jayisgames.com/archives/2009/07/tiny_game.php -Jay]

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little_geoff October 26, 2009 6:43 PM

ok, so i got further than i did the first time round on my own. Plus i found the walkthrough from the old reveiw...still cant get the last L though!
https://jayisgames.com/archives/2007/08/banner_game_by_rob_allen.php#walkthrough

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Okay, so, doing this should light up the G?

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Aw, how strange, I don't remember having to sign in to get the "G" lit.
Did this change since the first version?

[Edit: Yes, it did change. If you recall, the old version had a smaller banner on all but the front page of the site. The "G" came from that smaller banner. That doesn't exist anymore since the full banner is on every page now. -Jay]

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Wow, it's been a long time. Best banner game I ever played.

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jim le fevre October 26, 2009 7:31 PM

I'm posting as a guest at home but my biggest concern is that I can't find any sign of Mr Allen himself? Is Foon no longer around? Is he ok?

I do hope so as he really is a master.

Shall pop back to the banner game when I'm back on work tomorrow

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ThemePark October 26, 2009 8:04 PM

Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing the old stylesheet back! <3

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That banner game was a classic, one of the most unexpected banners ever at any website. Any chance of On doing one?

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queen-of-diamonds October 26, 2009 8:35 PM

I feel so stupid. I can only light up the "P"!

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Hey, I beat it. Here is a clear and specific walkthrough.

Banner Game Walktrough:

Note: The letters are presented here in order for clarity. The letters cannot be lit in the exact order in which they appear in the words, but many of them can be lit in any order. Try to find as many as you can before resorting to this guide.

C:

Get the wand, and use it one your man while he's on the left side of the lake. He'll be flung into the lake and a mini-game will start. The man will follow your mouse pointer, and jump when you click. Grab all the letters and avoid the crab before the meter at the bottom runs out. Success will light up the C.

a:

Use the wand on the left lantern.

s:

Enter the Jaytrix (if you don't know what this is, see "Secrets") and some circles will show up. The circles represent a 3x3 section of a maze. The big circles are walls and the little circles are pathways. Click the little circles to move in the maze. When you find a star, make sure your screen is centered on it and click. You may or may not have to get the "a" in "Gameplay" first.

u:

After using the wand on both lanterns, a target will appear. Click it, then try to hit as many targets as possible. For the moving targets, I find that it's easiest to get them at the bottom of the screen. You need to hit at least 12 to win.

a:

Use the wand on the right lantern.

l:

Before getting the previous letter (refresh if you already did, you're progress is safe), move the man to the right side of the lake, near the fire. Click the fire to get a torch. Move the man to the left side of the lake and turn the right lantern on if it isn't already. When your torch burns out, the fireflies following you will move to the lantern. Press the button inside the l, then quickly turn of the lantern.

G:

Are you signed into JIG to leave a comment? You will need to be to get this letter. If you're already signed in, then you should already have this letter!

(Anonymous commenters may also get the "G". You'll have to leave a comment and click the box "Remember me" for it to work. Make sure you reload the page afterwards for the special "G" sauce.)

a:

In the Jaytrix, there is a switch on a tree. Flip it.

m:

Click on the hole in the tree on the very left side of the banner. Three red bugs will come out. When they are below the m, press the red button on said m.

e:

Turn the volume on for this. In the sky, there are 5 stars that are slightly bigger than the rest and light up when you rollover them. Click the stars to play notes from lowest to highest.

p:

At the top of the banner, there are some brown leaves. Click them. Go get a torch (move the guy to the fire and click the fire then come back) and click the pile of leaves below the p.

l:

After lighting the second letter a in "Gameplay," reload the banner (your progress is safe). There should be a rocket ship. Go get the frog but do NOT click on him. Zap him with the wand to turn him into a real boy. Click him now to make him go in the ship and start a mini-game. Avoid the alien eyeballs until you reach the end. A word of advice, when you come to the moving blue eyes, don't stay near the top or you'll get a nasty surprise.

a:

Get the frog and click on him to make him hop onto a lily pad. Now zap him with the wand to turn him into a human. Click the man to make him fish. If you look closely at the lake, you'll see a ripple come out of where the man is fishing, and another spot on the lake. Use your mouse to push the guy over to that spot and click him after the ripple.

y:

Get the frog (don't know how? See "Secrets") and click on him to make him go on a lilly pad. Push him over to the other side of the lake and click on him until he hops onto the "a". Now click the hole in the leftmost tree to make some bugs come out. when they reach the "e" in "gameplay," click the frog. Click him again after the green bug comes out to eat it (though it's worth watching what happens if you fail first).

Secrets

Wand:

After you light the "l" in "Casual," click your man to move him to the right side of the screen, then roll your mouse over both sets of reeds. A wizard will pop out from a tree. Click him while he's flying to get him to drop a magic wand.

The Jaytrix / do a jig / jay is MOST DEFINITELY games:

Assuming you're using an up-to-date browser and the latest copy of flash player, when you right click on the banner there should be an option called either: 1) "the jaytrix has you", 2) "do a jig", or 3) "jay is MOST DEFINITELY games". Click it and you'll be sucked into the Jaytrix.

The Frog:

Drag and drop the rocks to destroy them. Click the tree above where the rocks were to make new rocks. Eventually, a big rock will fall. Drag away this rock to find the frog.

[Orginially submitted by golden_cow2 August 8th 2007. ~Kero]

You must be signed into a valid casual gameplay account to complete the game now. You don't need to comment to finish. If the letter isn't showing up when you are signed in, try refreshing the page.

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yay! Thanks for the Tiny Game link, Jay :)

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what's up with this? i clicked "play" and i get this page over and over. someone didn;t link the page correctly.

[Edit: Paul, the game is in the banner, the image at the top of the JIG homepage when the darker green stylesheet is in effect. -Jay]

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fun stuff

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Cutler Sheridan October 27, 2009 12:52 AM

Can't get the last L! Stupid trackpads! Also, my G isn't lit up, but I'm about to send an e-mail about that.

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I don't get the "maze". : (

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Nevermind! How fun!

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Now I remember why I was pleased when the banner changed - it's really annoying having that U and L unlit!

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StephenM3 October 27, 2009 3:57 AM

Gaah! I

right-clicked and "did a jig"

and now I can't for the life of me figure out

this stupid 3x3 grid puzzle! I can see there's some sort of logic to it, but somehow I'm not seeing the pattern. This is really frustrating, especially since there's apparently no other way to go back to the main area of the game!

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StephenM3 October 27, 2009 4:21 AM

Oooooh, I get it now. That's mean. That's just plain mean. Good job!

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Aha! Back at work and I had forgotten how wonderfully taxing this is, still would love to know what's happened to the great Rob Allen, can't find his site anywhere...

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StephenM3 October 27, 2009 4:49 AM

Sorry for so many posts so close together (thanks jim le fevre for breaking up the dreaded triple-post) but I have something that might be helpful (but not a COMPLETE givaway) for anyone having trouble with the

maze

and here it is:

a map! Well, an ascII map. Requires a fixed-width font and all. But it helped me handle the maze!
ooooooooooooooo
o.....oo....o.o
o.o.o....oo.o.o
ooo.oooo..o...o
o...o..oo.o.o.o
o.o.o..oo.oo..o
o.o....oo.o...o
o....o.oo.o.o.o
oooooo.oo.ooo.o
o...o..oo.....o
o.o....oo..o..o
o.oooooooooo.oo
o.o....o...o..o
o....o...o.o..o
ooooooooooooooo

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For the maze, you can also

pretend you're a mouse in a scientific experiment and follow the right (or left) wall until you reach the goal

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Jaytrix map!!!

http://www.jimlefevre.com/?page_id=951

[Edit: A very nice map! You do realize that there's more than one, right? ;) -Jay]

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Aha, StephenM3! We're on the same brainwaves! That would be why I interrupted your triple post! (and now a double post from me! aplogies!)

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Hm, I have a suggestion. Maybe you could be able to change between the stylesheets Jay is Games has had so far? That would be fun!

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I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the new rules for lighting the G. One of the things I love about JIG is I don't

have to have an account

to access all the good stuff. I wouldn't have reset my progress if I'd known I won't be able to complete it again without

signing up.

Just my two cents. Won't keep me from coming back.

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Darn, even though I'm fullfilling the criteria to supposedly have the 'G' it's not lit. Does anyone else have this problem?

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Its finally back =D I missed this so =(

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Small things like this, makes a site so much more fun to be on. There should be more interactive banners in the future. Not necessarily a game, but just a thing you can play with, once in a while, when you don't know which game to play :D

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If it didn't work for you in Firefox, give IE6 a try. This happened for me and it worked fine in IE6.

Actually the whole site seems to perform much better in IE6, its slow to load and scrolls jerkily, hanging in Firefox.

[Edit: Oh noes! Not IE6?!! The site looks horrible in IE6. *Jay just died a little inside from this comment. -Jay]

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ok then let me ask this then. What do i do with the letters? i tried typing the letters,clicking on the letters,nothing works.

[Edit: You'll have to try much harder than that. The game is a point-and-click puzzle game similar to games like the Hapland series. If you're really stuck, try looking at one of the letter solutions in the walkthrough to get a feel for what the game expects of you. -Jay]

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Just getting the

G

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god_is_an_astronaut October 27, 2009 11:59 AM

thanks for bringing this game back :) we need more of this here...

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ok, this was cool to play again, but how do I get back to the newer layout? XD

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I know what you're talking about, I remember seeing those little images before, but I'm not seeing them now.

[Edit: The image is not little. It's the column-wide screenshot in the 'review' above. Click it (again). ;) -Jay]

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very clever mini game =) had a lot of fun playing

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somehow i cant work out how to get to the game, whenever i klick the links i get to the same page, white or brown, none is leading me to the game . help! i want to play it!

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Ok, is the "wand" the lighted stick you get from the fire? I can't figure out how to use it.

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StephenM3 October 27, 2009 2:21 PM

liona, when the page is brown, the game will be in the Casual Gameplay banner at the very top (no matter what JiG page you're on).

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"click again to switch it back" DUR DUR DUR
Ignore me please....

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Any help on using the

wand

? I'm having a dense moment!

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MightSeriouslyBeCrazy October 27, 2009 2:56 PM

Ok, Nevermind about the wand

~the crazy one FKA Twsty

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Right I'm not getting the G either. This is what I tried.....
Refreshed page in FF
Signed out then back in in FF
Opened link in IE Tab add-on and refreshed
Signed out then back in in IE tab add-on
Left this comment using IE tab add-on.

Still no G. So if i am to e-mail JIG to check out the configuration what details am I sending? My browser details I presume?

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Jay Verity October 27, 2009 3:01 PM

I can't get the G to light in FF or IE 8

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Still no G after that comment either. So I'm trying leaving a comment using FF this time. Also vaccine in an earlier post suggested that JIG works better with IE6.... oh my god no. It is awful. Sometimes the page loads up wrong, sometimes not at all and it always takes a good 10 seconds before everything is finished loading compared to about 2 seconds tops with FF. For the love of god people.... Forget IE exists. There are lots of much better, faster and more reliable browsers out there than IE6.

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Yeah whatever you did it seemed to work Jay. I now have the G :) Thankies.

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Thanks Jay!

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this is so stupid.. but where is the wand?

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well i'm just confused on what to do. just saying the letters do not help me. there needs to be instructions like this:

"Here's what the letters mean. click rapidly."
or "click once" etc. just say "letter: letter 2:" etc just confuses me. if anyone can tell me what i;m doing wrong,i'd appreciate it.Thanks.

[Edit: The objective of the banner game is to get all the letters of C-a-s-u-a-l G-a-m-e-p-l-a-y lit. To do that you will have to click on things in the banner to solve the puzzles. There is a puzzle for each letter of Casual Gameplay. Beyond that, please consult the walkthrough for instructions on what you must do to light each letter. -Jay]

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Am I supposed to see one? all I get is

the stick from the fire, and I can't do anything with it.

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BlackWolfe Coyoten October 27, 2009 4:21 PM

Yeah, Nuwanda, I made the same mistake.

The stick on fire is used for a different letter.

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bigicityboy October 27, 2009 4:26 PM

love it!

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cool, now come'ere you pesky letters

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thanks! I found the use of the

stick

and will try to find the other item.

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Thanks for the update, Jay. I can now live my life in peace.

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heehee. this is fuN!:)

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can't do it. it says to look for certain items and they are not to be found,

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Love this game! Graphics are pretty stupendous.

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This is pretty fun. :D

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Im so excited this is back. The first time I found this site it was the fisrt game I played here. ah nostalgia.

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Cool Game!

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flamegirl October 27, 2009 6:51 PM

This game is great, but the colour scheme in the jaytrix is giving me a headache!

[Edit: The jaytrix color scheme is random, and sometimes it doesn't come out looking very nice. Just reload the page and try again. :) -Jay]

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Anonymous October 27, 2009 7:20 PM

hopefully this will get me a "G"

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stupidcheeseboy October 27, 2009 7:33 PM

Aw Man! I'm so happy. This banner game brought me to JIG. I kept coming back to try and finish it and eventually realised it was attached to a really awesome site ... doh!

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Anonymous October 27, 2009 7:33 PM

wow this is my first comment, loved the game!

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Finally!!!!!!!!!!

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wafflesyum October 27, 2009 8:13 PM

Aw this is awesome!

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Thanks for bringing back the banner game!

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yaywaffles October 27, 2009 8:21 PM

I could play this all day!

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Weeeeeeeee

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Randomkooldog October 27, 2009 8:32 PM

Great game, glad it's back!

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Anonymous October 27, 2009 8:57 PM

Awesome game :)

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Lost my patience with the maze and don't want/need to light all the letters that badly.

[Edit: Chill and come back to it tomorrow. It's really not that hard to solve if you approach it from the right perspective. -Jay]

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This game is addicting...I almost have it beaten.

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Anonymous January 6, 2010 10:12 AM

Cute game- thanks to all the helpers (=spoilers)! No chance without you...

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nice one :)

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Anonymous January 11, 2010 3:00 AM

Lot of times when I accidentally clicked just beside the thing I was trying to click but it never puts me off.

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The rock keeps getting stuck.

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I can't figure out the 3x3 thing...

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excellent game. slight bug with the rock getting stuck though, and getting the G is a bit of a hassle ;)

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hi i love this game

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Hi everyone,
can someone tell me what happened with rob allens "NETSHIFT"?
I miss this game.

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This is pretty fun.

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AwesumSawce February 21, 2010 6:59 PM

Reminds me of hapland

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SmotingKills March 5, 2010 11:14 AM

Just getting my G - great game, by the way. Only the u I can't get - just too slow with the old mousepad....

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Awesome game

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Anonymous March 11, 2010 1:11 AM

love it

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This game rocks!!

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dang, the

spaceship game

is hard. especially without checkpoints.

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man, this game is awesome! I wish he did more games like this. I love games like Hapland and explode the Cow

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The Game is Great!

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Cool banner

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Great!

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what wand!

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Love this game!

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How do you beat the dot puzzle at the Jaytrix?

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Anonymous June 26, 2010 11:48 PM

awesome

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nice game

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Anonymous July 2, 2010 10:44 AM

super fun

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Racer Figspeed July 3, 2010 5:41 PM

Anyone know what happened to Rob Allen? I remember the site just vanished one day...

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Bob Alenter July 14, 2010 1:19 PM

good game

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Casualite July 23, 2010 9:52 PM

Fun, fun game.

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I wanna get the G!!!

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This is a nice game.

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sunglasse August 24, 2010 3:17 PM

just getting the g

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megacheese September 2, 2010 3:48 AM

this game is awe-some

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Love the game, but the spaceship part takes FOREVER

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awesome game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(36 exclamation marks!(oops, another one))

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so annoying!

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great game

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I ♥ This Game

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FIRST time for me.

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awesome

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nearly done =P

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for the g :P

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Very well done.

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just "commenting" to light up a letter :3

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Just gotta get the G and the L in Gameplay=D

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So, I get a letter for this?

Fun game.

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love this game!

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Is there a trick to getting the maze right...just don't get it!!

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Awesome! Very fitting!

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This is awesome!

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i beat this game before, and I'll do it again!

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cool. :D

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Anonymous May 14, 2011 10:18 PM

This was a really interesting game; I never suspected that I would dodge giant eyeballs in outer space in a red rocket piloted by a miniature stickman who was transformed from a frog which I found behind a large rock I shook from a tree. A treat for those who wander the pages of this website.
:P

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yay!!!!

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Fun!

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Anonymous June 21, 2011 6:19 AM

I have enjoyed this game like all from Rob Allen. Please do never stop having this great ideas and give us more please ;-))

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quite fun!

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rosalie July 11, 2011 3:13 PM

awesome banner, and distracting in a good way ;)

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THIS. This is aweomesauce being spread around on my pizza of life. Not just the game banner, Oh no, no I mean this WHOLE site. It's. So. Cool.

[Thanks! :) There are a lot of us here that work hard at being awesome, so it's really nice to see people appreciating what we do. :) -Jay]

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Finally finished it!

Been visiting the site for years now but only just signed up...

to get the G! Sneaky!

Anyway,now that I am signed up to comment figured I might as well pass on some helpful info to anyone having trouble with..

..the jaytrix maze.

Got so fed up with the maze that I ended up drawing a map for it: it's basically a 15X15 square with a spiral wall in the middle (the only entrance/exit of which is about halfway up the right hand side of the maze) & afew smaller walls thrown in for good measure. The 1st time I did it, the star was in a clearing in the top left corner of the maze (if it doesn't seem to be there, you might still be inside the inner spiral).
Also, I think it started me in the bottom right corner, so just keep going left and then keep going up & you should come to it!

Tried it a 2nd time and the star had moved to the innermost part of the spiral. Hopefully it will be in one of these places for you.

Hope this helps people, I couldn't find any similar info when I was stuck on this part!

Great work on the site Jay! Cheers!

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123456789 July 29, 2011 11:20 AM

I love this game!!!

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Love it, but so hard!!!

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Still working on it.....

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Awesome

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SleepyBri October 30, 2011 2:22 AM

Love it!

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Leaving a comment for a letter. Had me stumped for ages.

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I still love this game!

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Ugh, Im so caught up on this Jaytrix. Im horrible at these kinds of puzzles. But that being said, this game is marvelous, as is all of Rob Allens creations :) I am especially partial to the Robot wants games.

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designsqueen October 30, 2013 5:43 PM

great game!

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Ummm...got no sound on the banner now for stars, rocks, anything. :'(

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This may or may not be a comment to get the G.

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Oh, and yeah, as mentioned above me, there isn't any sound. We need sound for the letter.

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